Madame Quixote

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  Believer, Agnostic or Atheist?

  by lfcviking in

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  i am curious, what amount people on this board from their experiences of being a baptised & active jw and their subsequent exit from the jw org (for whatever reason or reasons) are now either agnostic, atheist or do some actually still believe in god?.

  your honest answers please.. lfcv.

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  new boy - It is a common misconception among believers that Einstein believed in God because he spoke of "god" in a poetic sense. Einstein was a devout atheist and argued for atheism rather vehemently more than a few times; his discussions of god border on pantheism, basically called "sexed up atheism" by Richard Dawkins.
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  Believer, Agnostic or Atheist?

  by lfcviking in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am curious, what amount people on this board from their experiences of being a baptised & active jw and their subsequent exit from the jw org (for whatever reason or reasons) are now either agnostic, atheist or do some actually still believe in god?.

  your honest answers please.. lfcv.

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  I'm an unequivocal atheist. There's nothing more rational, sensible or logical.
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  Letter to Dad

  by mavie in

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  i'm doing good.

  i'll be flying back to portland next monday.

  i'm reading a book by a biologist named richard dawkins called "the blind watchmaker".

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  cool letter. I just started reading Dawkins' The God Delusion. It's pretty good. I want to read all of his works and read more science, especially evolutionary biology stuff. Keep reading! Thanks for sharing that.
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  That's it, we've had ENOUGH and we are MOVING!

  by Schism in

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  i know this question has been asked before, but i can't find the old post about this.

  i am looking for another area of the us to move to.

  edit: please be aware, i am ranting right now, but nothing here is exaggerated.

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  Madame Quixote

  Western, North Carolina, where I used to live:

  In Brevard, NC, there is the Pisgah National Forest, my favorite place to go camping:

  http://home.carolina.rr.com/httpd/hikepisgah/hikepisgah.html

  In Nantahala, there's white water rafting:

  http://www.wildwaterrafting.com/nantahala.html

  Beautiful waterfalls all over the state, esp. in the mountains:

  http://www.ncwaterfalls.com/

  Snow Skiing (which I despise). This is a cute webpage with a bunch of cute piccies of snow in NC:

  http://www.blueridgevacations.com/attractions/ski-resorts.html

  If you like hiking, there are many very lovely places designated for that, as well as the places you might discover on your own, such as:

  Shining Rock Wilderness, with a view of Cold Mountain:

  http://www.northcarolinaoutdoors.com/places/mountains/shiningrock.html

  Craggy Gardens:

  http://www.blueridgeparkway.org/images/2004dirspecial/craggy_gardens.htm

  Colleges & Universities, all lovely campuses:

  UNC-Asheville (second college I attended)-

  http://www.unca.edu/

  Western Carolina University

  http://www.ncmentor.org/common_functions/mentorv2/tour_images.asp?institution_id=938&photo_index=2

  Brevard College (first college I attended), (with fall and winter)-

  http://www.stateuniversity.com/universities/NC/Brevard_College.html

  Appalachian State U (dark sky observatory image):

  http://www.dancaton.physics.appstate.edu/Observatories/DSO/index.htm

  Okay, enough already. I love western North Carolina, don't you know.
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  That's it, we've had ENOUGH and we are MOVING!

  by Schism in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this question has been asked before, but i can't find the old post about this.

  i am looking for another area of the us to move to.

  edit: please be aware, i am ranting right now, but nothing here is exaggerated.

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  Western North Carolina is lovely; it gets a little snow, but not too much. It's really lovely; there are a few cities and a lot of countryside, the Blue Ridge Parkway, some of the the oldest mountains in the country. Nice skiining in some areas. More temperate than Colorado; smaller mountains because they're older. Very nice choice, I'd say, at least for scenery and snow:

  http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/131863757mjcMsz

  Good luck. Sorry you're in such a miserable situation. I've lived in Swannanoa (aka, Swannanowhere), Brevard, and Asheville, all satisfactory places, although I prefer the city to the country for convenience of public transit. I'll get you some piccies.
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  Have you put your JW family behind you? Are you content with your decision

  by nicolaou in

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  just feeling a bit fed up.

  it's not always like this i know but i'm wondering if life would be far easier for me and my wife if i just drew a line under all my efforts to maintain a relationship with my jw mother, brother and sisters.

  all the rejection, judgementalism and condescension gets a bit much after a while.. how many here actually said 'goodbye' to their jw family and can honestly say they did not regret it?.

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  I know what you mean, nicolau. When I was trying to "keep the lines of communication open" and visited my JW family, it always seemed like the "pink elephant in the room" was being ignored; it made everything strained and weird and shallow; and my family always treated me as the problem; they could never allow the possibility that they had the biggest problem - being in a cult religion that made them rigid and that ultimately maintained the total lack of depth or intimacy in our relationships.
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  Have you put your JW family behind you? Are you content with your decision

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. family

  just feeling a bit fed up.

  it's not always like this i know but i'm wondering if life would be far easier for me and my wife if i just drew a line under all my efforts to maintain a relationship with my jw mother, brother and sisters.

  all the rejection, judgementalism and condescension gets a bit much after a while.. how many here actually said 'goodbye' to their jw family and can honestly say they did not regret it?.

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  ((ferret))

  ((cordelia))

  ((nic))

  What a headache and a heart ache.

  I am glad most days to be free of that FOG mentioned in Blondie's post.

  Cordelia and Nic, you are definitely experiencing the effects of that emotional blackmail/FOG = fear, obligation, guilt. It's abuse of you by your family.

  If you're willing to put up with it, then no one here will try to stop you.

  My issue was one of "familiar pain" too. I have no regrets about my decision for no contact with my JW family, but I do feel sorrow from time to time.

  I wouldn't be human if I didn't.

  It's very hard to stay away from what's familiar - even when it's painful it seems somehow "safe."

  Isn't that a paradox?
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  Suicide and Jehovah's Witnesses Blog Article

  by Hoping4Change in

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  i haven't seen this posted yet and just bumped into it.

  sorry if it's already on here somewhere:.

  http://www.progressiveu.org/234028-jehovah-witness-suicide.

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  Madame Quixote

  So sorry, lillybird. so sad for you. so sorry.
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  Introduction, Body and Conclusion........sorry couldn't resist!

  by Canyoncarver in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey all,.

  new member here.

  i've been on the site a few times since my wife looked up a bunch of ex-j dub stuff (she's an ex herself).. anywho, my abreviated story..... born in los angeles to still active witnesses.

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  Madame Quixote

  Welcome. It really is hard to believe, the way time passes. I unconsciously believed for years I'd die young. Probably an Armageddon hold-over. When I passed 30 or so, I started realizing that everything after that is a great big bonus, although I know it's stupid. I do tell myself that from time to time. Anyway, glad you're here. Hope your wife will join up too.
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  Conversation with a friend. The true nature of Witnesses in their speech.

  by Morocco in

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  2. friends

  this was a conversation between me and my x-girlfriend's sister that i dug up from the depths of my messenger program.

  it happened a while ago during the big convention where they read the resolutions.

  i highlighted by underlining certain words and phrases that i feel expose her true thoughts and the inherent feelings and thoughts of most witnesses.

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  Madame Quixote

  I made it all the way through to "the bad apple" analogy and just had to stop. <p>

  Here's something you can say in your next email conversation with her: <p>

  "I am reading this terrific and brilliant science writer named Richard Dawkins. . .I can't remember the title of the latest book - The God . . . Something or other. It's the best book I ever read . . ." blah blah blah. <p>

  I bet that'll give 'em something to gossip about!<p>

  The book is called The God Delusion and it's very, very, very good. You'll be a devout atheist when you finish reading it, if you use your mind, LOL.